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6/2/2009 The Authority Smashing! Hour

The Authority Smashing! Hour with Buddhagem and Mr1001Nights

Aired on 6/2/2009


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8 comments on “6/2/2009 The Authority Smashing! Hour

  1. CaptainFrantic
    June 3, 2009

    Another enjoyable show guys. I’m very much isolated as an anarchist here which is why it’s so great for me to just hear you guys discussing issues. I really appreciate the shows because your conversations help me to hone my own convictions and challenges me to grow. Books are great of course but they tend to be dry and lifeless whereas a conversation is much more vibrant. I’d planned to get involved in the chat room on tonight’s show but I fell asleep after a hard day of gardening =S … maybe next week.

    CaptainFrantic (Wales, UK)

  2. Jamie
    June 3, 2009

    I’d just like to suggest that I think what you’re advocating about participation in struggle as a way to self- and collectively educate is theory itself – not a theory set off from practice at all, but neither a practice juxtaposed to theory.

  3. salutiferous
    June 8, 2009

    Jonathan likes to say that it is OK to choose slavery with two conditions. One is that your choice to be a slave does not affect the freedom of others and the other is that you can opt out of your slavery. Perhaps I am missing something but doesn’t the second condition negate slavery which by definition is “forced labor”. If you have the option to end your relationship with your master then they don’t truly own you.

    I would like to hear your response to a related topic. What right does a person have to ignorance? Do these rights extend to their children? I am thinking here of the home schooling movement in this country which has been widely used in the fundamentalist communities to propagate religious dogma.

    • Tyler
      June 9, 2009

      I think Jonathan meant that one can “choose” to be a wage slave if they satisfy both conditions: you have to be able to not have to work for a boss (meaning you can afford not to) and your work doesn’t impede on other people’s freedom. So a billionaire who spends 40 hours a week spoon feeding homeless people is not dependant on that ability to make a living, so he can choose not to do it, even if it means he’s working for a boss. In this sense one can say he’s not really a wage slave since slavery means not being able to opt out of working for a boss, i.e. forced labour. In the case of wage slavery, the capitalists as a class force those below them to work by denying them the necessities of life, which they must purchase with money they earn from the boss. Of course one can be a boss himself, and thus exploit others, but like Jonathan said, social mobility existed in chattel slavery, and I might add, feudal societies too. It even existed in the Soviet system with the nomenklatura. Social mobility however does not justify any of those systems, and therefore it is not a justification for capitalism.

  4. 9r33n
    June 8, 2009

    What’s the the song in the beginning ?

  5. john
    June 9, 2009

    “I would like to hear your response to a related topic. What right does a person have to ignorance? Do these rights extend to their children? I am thinking here of the home schooling movement in this country which has been widely used in the fundamentalist communities to propagate religious dogma.”
    Home schooling isn’t actually the problem, the same problem in this case is the parents your talking about.

  6. abortabraham
    June 16, 2009

    I have been trying to figure out the paradox capitalists reach when they always throw out the “be your own boss” refutation (or really declaration). Do they not listen to a word we say? We have always talked about self management, self managed workplaces and people having control of their productive lives. So you can “be your own boss”, but you can’t self-manage? Explain that one. If you haven’t completely blocked out any idea that conflicts with capitalist hierarchy, then you will most likely come to the conclusion that these so-called “individualists” are just running another exercise in eroding the rights of labor. One of the main arguments that the right and the left often come to is “who is more free”, but if you think freedom should end at the workplace and be substituted by a “my way or the highway” ultimatum (again, this is called free choice and voluntarism), then you are no longer the champions of modern free society that you always claim to be; you are the source of its inevitable degeneration and alienation.

  7. teen pee spy
    July 20, 2009

    well.. it’s like I knew!

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